And That's Why We Drink is a paranormal and true crime podcast hosted by Christine Schiefer, Em Schulz, and boxed wine. With over 80 million lifetime downloads, And That’s Why We Drink is consistently featured in the top 20 on the comedy podcast charts, and winner of the 2019 “People’s Voice” Webby Award for Best Comedy Podcast. Join us every Sunday for some chilling ghost stories and downright terrifying true crime stories.

The world's a scary place. And that's why we drink! 


Growing up in a small and haunted Virginia town, Em developed an affinity for sweet tea and ghost stories, so it’s no surprise that a podcast about the dead would be firmly planted in Em’s path. Before launching the podcast, Em held job titles such as professional clown, kite salesman, boat carpenter, segway expert, berry farmer, and paranormal investigator. In college, Em worked at Chipotle just to learn the recipe for their corn salsa and then quit. Another time, Em was offered a PhD in neuroscience but decided the smartest career move would be to move to Los Angeles with no money and no set plan.

Em is a member of The Ghost Club, the Society of Psychical Research, the Parapsychological Association, and the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON). Through And That’s Why We Drink, Em has covered over 200 cases, including hauntings, abductions, cryptids, legends, conspiracies, and historical figures in the paranormal world. Whether they’re explaining demonic portals, the belief that Obama was recruited into a time travel program on Mars, Houdini’s undercover army exposing mediums, or a possessed talking mongoose, Em drinks a milkshake each episode to celebrate getting through another week of research. When Em isn’t drinking milkshakes, they are either preparing for their tiny house build, watching Back to the Future II, or actively not sharing food.


Originally hailing from Cincinnati, Ohio, Christine spent the 1990s doing all the things normal American kids do, like devouring Stephen King novels, attempting late-night séances, and analyzing her elementary school classmates for signs of the homicidal triad. Despite her somewhat macabre interests, Christine decided to pursue TV writing and moved to LA in 2015, where she found instant success as a part-time dog-walker.

After working as a Lyft driver, coffee-fetcher, and even private investigator, Christine ultimately landed her dream job as a Nickelodeon writer alongside her soulmate, Squidward Tentacles. In an attempt to create more of her own content, Christine teamed up with Em in 2017 to create “And That’s Why We Drink.” Christine also co-hosts the podcast “Beach Too Sandy, Water Too Wet” alongside her younger brother Alex. Named by Spotify as one of the “best new podcasts of 2019,” the show features one-star reviews read in the most dramatic fashion. When she’s not writing or podcasting, Christine can typically be found wandering the cereal aisle of the grocery store, talking to her dog, or injuring herself in a beginner yoga class. As far as her passions go, she is equally fond of budget wine and the stories that make her drink it. Christine currently resides back in Cincinnati with her husband, dog and cat.

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